Join Debra and Ash Ruiz and discover how to align with the power of the Elements.
- Introducing the 4E experience -
Your Journey to Healing & Balance Starts Here!
A Unique Pathway to Healing & Transformation
About two decades ago, after 25 years as a therapist, I came to a life-changing realization: the 4 Elements weren’t just a theory—when used intentionally, they become a deeply experiential method for finding relief, clarity, and balance.
I spent years searching for a way to create transformation that went beyond words—something embodied, something deeply felt.
Drawing from my background in therapy and as a student of Hal Stone, Ph.D., the originator of voice dialogue, I knew the power of separating and naming inner voices was essential. That’s where the idea for 4E began to take root.
The process starts with a poignant and personal question, one that resonates deeply with your current life situation. From this point of introspection, 4E gently unravels the intricate tapestry of your inner world, helping you identify which elements are supporting you and which may be causing obstacles.
4E gives a voice to each of the 4 Elements—Water, Air, Earth, & Fire.
Each Element has its own strengths, needs, and fears. By isolating their voices, you’ll uncover profound truths about yourself.
Whether you’re seeking healing for yourself or feel called to guide others, 4E will give you the tools to uncover the truth, dissolve fear, and step into your full potential.
I’m so excited to share this work with you! Join me so we can explore this wisdom together and see what’s possible.
- THE DUAL JOURNEY OF 4E -
Therapeutic Healing + Professional Certification
The 4E Program is raw, it’s honest, and it’s exactly what you need to come back to yourself.
The best part? This program is two journeys in one. You’ll experience a deeply personal transformation while learning how to facilitate the 4E process for others. This is experiential and goes beyond learning theory—this is all about truly embodying the elements.
Personal Healing
This is where it all begins: you, your story, and the Elements. With guidance from experienced facilitators, you’ll step into a safe space to uncover emotional wounds, dissolve limiting beliefs, and reconnect with your true self. Whether you’re facing relationship struggles, inner conflict, or simply feeling unbalanced, the 4E process will meet you where you are.
Professional Certification
Once you’ve had your own transformative experience, it’s time to learn how to share it. The 4E Program equips you with a 12-month support container that includes all the resources you need to ensure you have the tools to confidently facilitate the process for others.
- THE Journey of 4E -
Therapeutic Healing
The 4E Experience is raw, honest, and designed to help you reconnect with yourself through the wisdom of the Elements. This work is deeply experiential — it’s about embodying the Elements in a way that brings clarity, balance, and forward movement.
Personal Healing
This is where it all begins: you, your story, and the Elements. Guided by experienced facilitators, you’ll step into a supportive space to explore emotional patterns, release what may be keeping you stuck, and reconnect with your authentic self.
Whether you’re navigating relationship challenges, inner conflict, or simply feeling out of alignment, the 4E process meets you exactly where you are.
Let the Elements Be Your Teacher & Show You the Way...
What is Water ready to teach you?
Every 4E begins with Water, the emotional depth that allows you to connect with your inner world.
Water’s embrace may be calling you if you find yourself overwhelmed by sensitivity and emotion if your world feels flooded with challenges that sap your motivation, or if you’re struggling to stay afloat amidst life’s demands.
In the vastness of your Elemental makeup, there is a part that can offer you a lifeline, a respite from the deluge.
Without recognizing and balancing the 4 Elemental voices within, Water can overwhelm, submerging everything in its path. For those with a strong Water presence, signs like depression, anxiety, and lethargy can point towards an imbalance in Water.
This 4E journey through Water is about understanding and soothing the sensitive parts of your being with nature’s own medicine.
I invite you, to plunge into this transformative experience with Water. Dive right in, and let the waters of 4E guide you towards balance, understanding, and inner peace.
⚠️ 4E is Limited to 40 spots in 2025 reserve your spot by clicking the lime green button today. When you do, you get complimentary access to the KINRGY app for 1 year.
☝️ Interested in the Elements & the Stars? Schedule a call to find out about early access to Applied Astrology and apply to become one of the 15 VIPs with direct access to Debra.
What is air ready to teach you?
Then we move through Air, bringing clarity to your thoughts and relationships.
Air represents the aspect within us that struggles with concentration and decision-making. It’s the fluttering thought that can’t settle, the idea that can’t take root. Surprisingly, it’s not the Air itself that’s the issue; rather, it’s the lack of grounding – an attribute of Earth – that leaves us feeling adrift.
Your journey with Air in the 4E process is more than just an exercise in self-discovery; it’s a pathway to creating a plan, a structure – a touch of Earth – to bring focus and direction to your thoughts.
When Air’s restless energy is understood and harnessed, it transforms into a powerful force for creativity and insight.
The miracle of 4E lies in its ability to facilitate a candid conversation with your higher self, allowing your inner voice of wisdom to emerge and guide you. This is the highest use of Air as a healing balm.
Join me in harnessing the transformative power of Air. Whether you’re seeking to calm a restless mind, find clarity in your decisions, or simply explore the dynamic energy of Air, the 4E program offers the perfect vehicle.
“Being with you in Boulder and choosing the 4E workshop changed everything for me. I’ve stepped into my magic. I’m no longer hiding!” ~Kami Tollini
⚠️ 4E is Limited to 40 spots in 2025 reserve your spot by clicking the lime green button today. When you do, you get complimentary access to the KINRGY app for 1 year.
☝️ Interested in the Elements & the Stars? Schedule a call to find out about early access to Applied Astrology and apply to become one of the 15 VIPs with direct access to Debra.
What is earth ready to teach you?
Then comes Earth, grounding you in stability and practical action.
The voice of the critic, a common psychological archetype, often clouds our judgment with relentless negativity – “I’m never good enough,” “There’s too much to do,” “I’m tired.” These are the echoes of an unbalanced Earth element, overshadowing the more constructive and nurturing aspects of our psyche.
For individuals with a significant Earth influence, balancing this element is crucial. Without this equilibrium, the harsher voices, particularly those embodying Earth’s shadow aspects, can dominate our inner dialogue.
Through the 4E process, we invite all aspects of your being to participate in a dialogue, allowing each Elemental voice to express itself fully. This inclusive approach enables a more balanced self-awareness, where the critical voices are tempered by Earth’s nurturing and stabilizing energy.
Join me in this journey to discover the grounded, resilient self beneath the surface. Whether it’s silencing the inner critic, finding stability amidst chaos, or simply connecting more deeply with Earth’s enduring qualities, our 4E program offers a pathway to profound self-discovery and healing.
Let’s unearth your true potential together, fostering a sense of inner peace and strength that only Earth can provide.
⚠️ 4E is Limited to 40 spots in 2025 reserve your spot by clicking the lime green button today. When you do, you get complimentary access to the KINRGY app for 1 year.
☝️ Interested in the Elements & the Stars? Schedule a call to find out about early access to Applied Astrology and apply to become one of the 15 VIPs with direct access to Debra.
What is fire ready to teach you?
Finally, we end with Fire, activating your higher self and igniting your passion for life.
Fire represents the part of us that yearns for change, that seeks to transform and renew. It’s the spark of inspiration, the drive for progress, and the warmth of passion. However, without balance, this fiery energy can either become a destructive force or be smothered by the other elements, losing its vital essence.
For individuals with a significant Fire presence, the balance that 4E provides is essential for harnessing Fire’s constructive power while mitigating its potential for burnout or overwhelm.
We invite you to explore the dynamic and invigorating world of Fire through our 4E program. Whether you’re seeking to reignite your passion, embrace change, or simply understand the fiery aspects of your nature, 4E provides the perfect environment for exploration and growth. Let’s kindle your inner flame together and embark on a journey of transformation and self-realization.
⚠️ 4E is Limited to 40 spots in 2025 reserve your spot by clicking the lime green button today. When you do, you get complimentary access to the KINRGY app for 1 year.
☝️ Interested in the Elements & the Stars? Schedule a call to find out about early access to Applied Astrology and apply to become one of the 15 VIPs with direct access to Debra.
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Reclaim Your Natural LIFE Rhythm
with the 4 Elements
- LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE -
4E Personal Healing + Certification
with Debra Silverman and Master Facilitators $14000
$ 5000 Payment Plans Available- A 2-Day In-Person Retreat (Colorado) $5000 VALUE
- 12-Months of Personalized Certification Support $1000 VALUE
- Supplemental Online Training with Debra Silverman $2000 VALUE
- Byron Katie System Training with Ash Ruiz $2000 VALUE
- Script Review and After Event Integration Call $500 VALUE
- 3 Complimentary Certification Submissions $750 VALUE
- 4 Quarterly Q&A Calls $2000 VALUE
- Other Enriching Resources to Support Your Journey $500 VALUE
LIMITED SPOTS
4E Personal Healing + Certification
with Debra Silverman and Master Facilitators $14000
$ 5000 Payment Plans Available- A 2-Day In-Person Retreat (Colorado) $5000 VALUE
- 12-Months of Personalized Certification Support $1000 VALUE
- Supplemental Online Training with Debra Silverman $2000 VALUE
- Byron Katie System Training with Ash Ruiz $2000 VALUE
- Script Review and After Event Integration Call $500 VALUE
- 3 Complimentary Certification Submissions $750 VALUE
- 4 Quarterly Q&A Calls $2000 VALUE
- Other Enriching Resources to Support Your Journey $500 VALUE
LIMITED SPOTS
Reclaim Your Natural LIFE Rhythm
with the 4 Elements
- LIMITED SPOTS AVAILABLE -
4E Personal Healing Experience
with Debra Silverman and Master Facilitators $ 5000 Payment Plans Available
- In-person healing retreat in a beautiful, supportive, and intimate setting — creating meaningful, lasting connections
- Experience your own therapeutic 4E as you move through the wisdom of each of the 4 Elements
- Witness the healing moments of others’ 4E sessions while gaining powerful insight into your own journey
- Access to our private 4E Come Study You course, filled with content and materials to continue your deepened relationship with the Elements
- Debra’s 4E Facilitator Script for those called toward guiding others
- Byron Katie Method training with Ash Ruiz to support future 4E facilitators
LIMITED SPOTS
4E Personal Healing Experience
with Debra Silverman and Master Facilitators $14000
$ 5000 Payment Plans Available- A 2-Day In-Person Retreat $5000 VALUE
- Supplemental Online Training with Debra Silverman $2000 VALUE
- Byron Katie System Training with Ash Ruiz $2000 VALUE
- 12-Months of Personalized Certification Support $1000 VALUE
- Script Review and After Event Integration Call $500 VALUE
- 3 Complimentary Certification Submissions $750 VALUE
- 4 Quarterly Q&A Calls $2000 VALUE
- Other Enriching Resources to Support Your Journey $500 VALUE
LIMITED SPOTS
Looking Ahead Into the Stars
Not sure if 4E is the right program for you? Let’s talk! The journey doesn’t end with the 4 Elements—this is just the beginning. By setting up a free call with our team, you’ll have the chance to explore your questions, talk through your options, and discover how 4E can support your personal and professional growth.
During the call, you’ll also learn about early access to our Applied Astrology School’s VIP program. This unique opportunity allows you to combine the wisdom of the Elements with the guidance of the Stars, creating a powerful foundation for healing and transformation. Secure your early bird enrollment and access exclusive bonuses that will align your path forward.
Schedule your free call today and take the first step into this next chapter of growth and self-discovery!
ABOUT YOUR FACILITATORS
Meet Debra Silverman
It’s been said that I’m a world-renowned Astrologer. What gets left out, is that I’m a sophisticated therapist. I sewed together Astrologer and the 4 Elements into therapy. I created the 4E process as an answer to two important questions:
#1. How can I change your life?
#2: How can you access your higher self’s voice so that you become your own resource of wisdom?
My career spans over 45+ years of practicing and studying Astrology, woven seamlessly with my psychotherapy practice. This journey has led me to work with a diverse array of individuals, from high-performing business leaders and rock stars to actresses, children, and everyday people seeking a better life.
My mission with 4E has always been clear – to help you discover your own wisdom through the transformational power of the 4 Elements.
Debra Silverman
It’s been said that I’m a world-renowned Astrologer. What gets left out, is that I’m a sophisticated therapist. I sewed together Astrologer and the 4 Elements into therapy. I created the 4E process as an answer to two important questions:
#1. How can I change your life?
#2: How can you access your higher self’s voice so that you become your own resource of wisdom?
My career spans over 50+ years of practicing and studying Astrology, woven seamlessly with my psychotherapy practice. This journey has led me to work with a diverse array of individuals, from high-performing business leaders and rock stars to actresses, children, and everyday people seeking a better life.
My mission with 4E has always been clear – to help you discover your own wisdom through the transformational power of the 4 Elements.
Ash Ruiz
Ash Ruiz is a world-renowned musician who left the stage in exchange for a spiritual doorway that called him into a life of teaching and facilitation.
For over 30 years, Ash has guided others into the direct experience of who they truly are, drawing from non-dual awareness and the transformational work of Byron Katie. His approach helps dissolve limiting beliefs and free people from the patterns that create suffering.
In the 4 Elements process, Ash supports participants in questioning their thoughts, uncovering what’s true, and reconnecting to a deeper sense of clarity and peace. His sense of humor and singing voice make his presence both inspiring and disarming—creating a space where real change can happen
ABOUT YOUR MASTER FACILITATORS
Ash Ruiz
Ash Ruiz is a world-renowned musician who left the stage in exchange for a spiritual door that allowed him to become a teacher and facilitator.
He has been immersed in Katie Byron’s work and the work of non-dualism that liberates us from our small egos point of view.
His sense of humor and singing voice make his presentation irresistible and inspiring.
Ashley Johnson
Ashley Johnson is a mother of 3, a wife, and an inspirational embodied example of joy, fun, and creativity.
She teaches women how to use music and dance as tools to express authenticity and freedom. Having grown up on a farm, her relationship with the 4 elements began at a very young age. Her energy is contagious and vital, role modeling for us the right use of the 4 elements in every area of our lives.
⚠️ 4E is Limited to 40 spots in 2025 reserve your spot by clicking the lime green button today. When you do, you get complimentary access to the KINRGY app for 1 year.
☝️ Interested in the Elements & the Stars? Schedule a call to find out about early access to Applied Astrology and apply to become one of the 15 VIPs with direct access to Debra.
